Chung Lao: Pastor B, how are you?
Pastor B: I’m doing great. Excited about
being involved in ministry that makes an external
Lao: Tell us about your church.
Pastor B: Calvary is an Assemblies of God
church located in Union, NJ. It has an 86 year history
starting all the way back in Irvington, NJ as a small Bible
study group. Today it is a multi-cultural church running
two services on a Sunday morning, and runs several very
strong children’s programs.
Lao: Where were you born & tell us a little about your
Pastor B: I was born in Lancaster, PA, my
wife was born in Storm Lake, Iowa. We have been married for
30 years and have 7 children. 5 biologically and 2 by
adoption. They range in ages from 9 years old to 28 years
old. We now have 2 grandchildren.
Lao: Where were you a missionary in India, and what
was your ministry there?
Pastor B: During the 1980’s I felt God
moving on my heart to leave secular work and we applied to
the Assemblies of God for foreign missions work. An
opportunity opened up in South India at an international
school. We spent five years there working with the school
and at the same time establishing a church in the local
Chung Lao: What do you think of IndaPhatFarm.com?
Pastor B: I like the modern set-up. How
about more Flash integrated into it?
Lao: What was your initial reaction to the aftermath
of Hurricane Katrina?
Pastor B: Like most we wanted to know what
we could do to help. As a church we set a Sunday to take a
special sacrificial offering to help – then we hooked up
with another Assemblies of God church to let people go down
and help out first hand.
Lao: Many people are asking the question, why would a
loving God allow such death and devastation. What are your
words for such people?
Pastor B: Not every question has an easy
answer. The people who believe in a loving God will believe
that God will work all things together for our good. The
people who don’t believe in God won’t be satisfied with any
answer that you give them.
Lao: If you were forced to evacuate your home and told
never to return and you had 10 minutes to pack your most
prized/valued possessions in one standard size box what
would you pack? It could be only one thing or as much as
you could fit. Tell us what is in this box.
Pastor B: Assuming I could get another
Bible somewhere else – I’d take the family pictures and
important financial records.
Lao: Thoughts on George W. Bush?
Pastor B: The Bible gives us a clear
mandate to honor our leaders and pray for them. Every
single day I bring George Bush’s name before God. I
appreciate his love for God and his desire to serve God.
Lao: Name someone you admire, and why?
Pastor B: I admire faithful Christians. I
watch people in our church who come and faithfully show up
every time we open the doors. They work hard at providing a
place where people can come and find Christ and grow in
Christ. A church like ours thrives because of great
faithful men and women. Without them we’d be just another
Lao: Describe some of your hobbies.
Pastor B: I really like classic cars.
1950’s. Currently I own a 1956 Desoto.
Lao: Football fan, Pastor B?
Pastor B: I played football when I was a
kid. I love to watch it on TV however my life is so busy
that I don’t follow it very closely.
Lao: What were you doing 10 years ago? 5 years ago?
1 year ago, and yesterday?
Pastor B: I have been pastoring this church
for 17 years. Life comes and goes. My calling is to be
faithful in this work – so for all 17 of those years I have
been being a faithful pastor. Yesterday – I did a funeral
for a lady who found out she had cancer in June and died in
Lao: What is something that grieves you're heart about
Pastor B: I struggle with those that have
not learned to properly honor authority. Usually they are
the same people that want to be in authority yet haven’t
learned to first follow.
Lao: Pastor B, please list 3 experiences that have
greatly affected your life?
1.) Meeting my future wife who lead me to Christ
and then later marrying her.
2.) Being encouraged by a visiting pastor to
continue in my studies towards the ministry.
3.) Coming home from India and becoming Pastor
our the church I currently pastor.
Countries to visit:
Authors - AW Tozer – Andrew Murray – Leonard Ravenhill
Rice and Curry
Subject in School:
is your specialty in the kitchen?
Pastor B: Eating
Lao: IPF intelligence has come across a document
stating that you once owned a goose. Please verify this
statement and expound.
Pastor B: Not me! But my youngest daughter
loves animals and is always taking in a new born something
from her grandfather’s farm. Once there was a goose.
Lao: What verse would you recommend for young people
trying to find what God’s will in their life is?
Pastor B: Proverbs 3:5,6
Lao: Define the ideal church, even if it’s not
Pastor B: A church that people are willing
to work at unity in love with each other. They know the
meaning of faithfulness and do more than say they love Jesus
– they love Jesus by serving. Likewise they know how to be
loyal and honoring to each other and their leadership.
Lao: If you could change one thing about yourself,
what would it be?
Pastor B: There are two kinds of changes.
The first would be wishing away something that God put into
my life. I shouldn’t do that. But the second would be
seeking to change what God has given me power and authority
to change. I could write a book on that. I suppose I’d
start with a greater prayer life.
Lao: Do you feel we are living in the End Times?
Pastor B: Yes – The Bible points that way –
and the signs of the time point that way.
Lao: What version of the Bible do you recommend?
Pastor B: For the longest time I used NIV
but the past couple of years I have been using the New King
James Version. Somehow I get more out of it after reading a
Lao: Speaking of the End Times, do you feel that the
hugely popular “Left Behind” series had too many fictitious
elements to it, or did you find it to be mostly accurate?
Pastor B: I haven’t followed it real
closely so I would have to say that I don’t have enough info
to answer the question.
Lao: Pastor B, in almost all of my interviews, I give
my interviewees a scenario to which they must write their
way out of. Here goes: It’s a Sunday Afternoon, the
service has ended, the congregation has left. As you lock
the front door and turn around, you are almost knocked off
your feet by what you see. Barney the purple dinosaur is
bounding toward you with his arms outstretched. It looks
like he wants to give you a hug. What do you do?
Pastor B: Instead of the hug I try to talk
him into coming to our children’s church and help tell the
children about Jesus.
Lao: Lastly, leave us with a parting thought:
Pastor B: I appreciate the opportunity to